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| Author: | Zeta [ Thu Feb 19, 2026 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Putting an End to "Tech" |
| wrote this article about a month ago but sat on it for a while in case i thought of anything else important i needed to address. think it pretty much covers what i've been feeling about "tech" as a term for a while now you can read it here: https://mescog.org/tech.html huge credit to Windoze, Foxfire, and Lofty for feedback as i was writing it. interested to hear all of your thoughts |
| Author: | Durvin [ Thu Feb 19, 2026 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
| Generally agree that the term covers too much ground at the moment. I think the one reason this happens, is that some words tend to include more meaning over time while not shedding the old, due to the old not being "removed". An example would be that a subtitle with "this is tech", made in 2006, will still be there and still be read today alongside all the new charts that are around. There's a now deleted interview with Toph (with a screenshot found here in the SECS discord) where he mentioned being the first tech charter, which at that time meant following the music closely instead of undercharting / following the ~vibe~ of the notes. Due to how timeless etterna can be, we live in a world where this is completely correct in context, yet so vague in a new discord message. I noticed technical as a skillset being an issue from when i began using etterna more than SM5, as index packs i played lots tended to all be "technical, stream" or "stream, technical". I had dismissed the whole skillset a bit in the back of my head due to this, and i honestly wasn't aware that the term was as overloaded as it is now. I think the issues arising from the calculator will never go away, until someone expands upon it and adds "rainbow", "transition heavy", etc. My headcanon is that it is supposed to mean "difficult to execute", but tell a calculator that and it will return a nullpointer... One funny instance of tech being used differently in different groups, was when WoC was in the making and snover got really annoyed that it was called a tech pack by someone. When i asked him what it was if not tech, his answer was something like "well, it's not tech". |
| Author: | Guilhermeziat [ Fri Feb 20, 2026 2:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
| this is great, so many points i had never even considered, really. i agree that "tech" as a term is overused, and thinking back on it, i've felt like this for a long time, i just never realized it. couldn't agree more about the tech/dump binary point, this ship actually never ever sailed in my mind. i always thought it was an oversimplifying concept, although i do think that it's an interesting stepping stone for beginner charters and has its applications. you know, something about learning rules and then learning to break them (because they're not really true in the end). although one of the more incipient definitions of "tech", i could never fully accept that accurately charting a song could ever be a category of its own; accurately representing a song can lead to a chart that fits into any category depending on how the song is composed. from that perspective, i was always a lot more inclined to believe that "accurately charting songs" causes tech (as well as it can lead to jumpstreams, handstreams, jacks...), instead of being the consequence of tech, which is why the definition might have eventually shifted from that to "lots of weird patterns" in the first place, as all other categories already had names. i always found myself defining tech exclusively based on pattern complexity. this always made sense to me as it embodies making a chart as complicated/tricky/technical as possible to score on with the least amount of notes. it makes the most sense as well when compared to broader definitions of "technical". if someone tells me they would like more abrasive patterning in a chart of mine, that to me always equated to a request to make the chart more technical. in this regard, maybe "tech" could restore some validity as more of an overarching skillset like "stamina" (which i'd like to see your take on as well), or maybe in the end i'm just using "tech" to describe a potentially more fitting term, "abrasiveness". also, indeed a very snover response lol |
| Author: | Windoze [ Fri Feb 20, 2026 3:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
handful of thoughts; maybe will write more lateri dont think this is what the split really is; i think the real split is between "the music modulates the pattern the charter wants to use" and "the music dictates the pattern the charter uses" it gets even more confusing because if you talk to really old charters there used to be the idea that any chart that was just really hard and densely layered was a dump, so stuff like robotomy, puppet's AA, or patashu's joker would count despite all of the notes following notes in the music, so those all would have been considered tech dumps back then (can ask CBR about this, he'd confirm) the main issue i have with the conventional/traditional labels is that there's a lot of cultural weight behind the words that imply whatever doesn't follow this style is fringe when it feels like the "conventional" style has been the one on life support for the past decade. i think framing it in terms of amount of usage of ghost notes, the "scoring vs art file" dichotomy, or something like the modulation idea above avoids "picking a side" on which one ought to be standard |
| Author: | iesuoykuot [ Sun Feb 22, 2026 7:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
| alright so here's your new replacement words for these charts: tech / conventional / whatever the fuck it's called now: kiki wave-based / dump: bouba |
| Author: | Windoze [ Sun Feb 22, 2026 5:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
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| Author: | iesuoykuot [ Sun Feb 22, 2026 9:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
this is kouga patterning |
| Author: | Windoze [ Tue Feb 24, 2026 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
| it was over before it even began... |
| Author: | Guilhermeziat [ Tue Feb 24, 2026 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Putting an End to "Tech" |
bouba dump vs kiki dump 2009 though god damn |
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